Friday, December 7, 2012

And the World Hasn't Been the Same Since

The debate may rage over whether FDR knew this was coming. 
But no one deserved this.
 
    "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 -- a date which will live in infamy -- the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.....
....I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December seventh, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese Empire."

 Franklin D. Roosevelt
The White House, December 8, 1941

18 comments:

  1. A sad day indeed no matter how you look at it.

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    1. Nothing good came out of that day (I think what's easy for some Americans to forget is that people were being killed for several years beforehand).

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  2. well the oil embargo created a good warning sign

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    1. Absolutely. Like I mentioned below, I think the administration expected Japan to do SOMEthing after getting poked in the eye. But, I'm convinced they didn't see Pearl Harbor coming. No proof, but I wouldn't be surprised if they NEVER expected the Japanese to pull off something like this. A little racism, perhaps?

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  3. No one deserved anything that happened in that war.

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    1. A LOT of innocent people never died of old age back then, that's for sure.

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    1. What's even sadder is that some lessons aren't ever learned (i.e., 9/11).

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  5. Pearl Harbour was such a horrible day. For the Americans to be attacked without them even playing a physical part in the war was absolutely shambolic and in my opinion Japan deserved what they got. They messed with people who had done nothing to them, such a shocking day in history, it's sad that something similar has happened once again in our modern generation.

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    1. I think the US would have been in the war eventually. I wouldn't be surprised if FDR knew Japan would do something. But, I'm convinced he never expected what actually happened.

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  6. I remember the American Freedom Train back in '76. Hearing that recording there gave me a chill.

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    1. I wish I saw that. :-(
      I was 18 in 1976 and probably chasing girls or getting liquored up back then. Or chasing girls AFTER getting liquored up.

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    1. So many people, so many bad things....

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  8. War is such a waste and they never learn that it never solves anything.

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    1. Unfortunately, the human track records bears that out.

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  9. Unprovoked..... MY Foot !!!!!!!!!
    War is wrong and HELL no matter who starts it or why. No one ever tells the truth. Sunday morning and we were just sitting there in Pearl Harbor, drinking coffee and watching the sun come up and lo and behold out of the sky came bombs. Yeah, right.

    FDR wanted to join his cousin Winston in the war against Germany but he had won his last election (3rd term when the precedent set by George Washington was 2)by his promise to Mothers that their boys would never be sent into any foreign wars. Also... "We will not send our army, navy or air force to fight in foreign lands except in case of attack." Did you get that "in case of attack?"

    Oops.... calls for a false flag and an attack is just what we need to outrage the American people. Then they clamor for war. I'm glad I'm old. I've seen false flags so much. Why can't people wake up and see them too? It's the oldest trick in the government book. I'm seeing them now as much and perhaps more than ever. Now the gov't wants the guns and they're bringing out every trick to enrage the people who think guns walk around by themselves shooting people.
    Sorry to make this an epistle..... but many events, bla bla, RFD put out impossible sanctions to squeeze Japan right off the map.

    Also America had broken the Japanese codes and knew their every move. The Japanese embassy in Wash. had been ordered in early Dec. to destroy all it's codes and prepare for departure. The Japanese knew they had no chance of defeating U.S. in any war but if they could cripple the fleet at P.H., Japan could conquer a large area of the Pacific and Asia and peace could be negotiated. Dumb thinking, if you ask me but no one asked.
    2,400 men killed at Pearl Harbor and some were boys I went to school with. 1,200 wounded (my neighbor, for instance).
    Yeah, war was HELL and still is.

    I know you did your part in the Navy, Al. WW2 was so long ago and the truth gets forgotten. I've got to stop.... I've said too much.
    I'm back from hiatus ..... a summer of getting rid of a lifetime's stuff from 3 houses. I know you like funny and this hasn't been. So...this is on a TV ad. "How do you get an Irishman on the roof?" "Tell him the drinks are on the house." nyuk nyuk

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    1. I actually agree with you. I just don't want people to forget. Unfortunately, there are countless such tragedies throughout history. And there are many sides to everything in life. Like I've said in my reply comments, I believe FDR knew what he was doing. Did he think the Japanese would attack Pearl and, even if they did, what possible damage could they do? That I don't believe. I really felt a lot of folks didn't believe the "little monkeys" (NOT my term) didn't have what it took to travel all that way. Maybe the Phillipines, sure, but who cares, it's the Phillipines (once again, NOT my thinking). And, really, who cares what they did to the Chinese (still again, NOT my feeling)? We were Americans. However, there were PLENTY of bad actors in WW2 (Mussolini, Tojo, Himmler, Stalin-oops, our ally-and, do I even need to mention the little lunatic with the mustache?). And a LOT of good innocent people were killed on both sides. I still maintain the world has been changed by the events of the 40s. Unfortunately, mankind hasn't changed-we just have more destructive "toys."
      That being said, WELCOME BACK. Missed you around the place. Good joke!

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